Peter Carmichael information

Peter Carmichael
Peter Carmichael
Nickname(s)	"Hoagy"
Born	11 August 1923; Hull
Died	25 July 1997 (aged 73); Holyhead
Allegiance	United Kingdom
Service/branch	Royal Navy
Years of service	1942–1984
Rank	Commander
Commands held	806 Naval Air Squadron
Battles/wars	Second World War; Korean War
Awards	Officer of the Order of the British Empire; Distinguished Service Cross

Commander Peter Carmichael, OBE, DSC (11 August 1923 – 25 July 1997), nicknamed "Hoagy", was a combat pilot with the Royal Navy during and after the Second World War. Later, he became famous during the Korean War for shooting down a jet-engined MiG-15 while flying a piston-engined Hawker Sea Fury, the only recorded victory of a piston-engined aircraft over a jet fighter during the Korean War.^[1]^[2] However, this claim is now disputed, and the kill is currently claimed by another Royal Navy pilot – Brian 'Schmoo' Ellis – flying with Carmichael on the day in-question.^[3]^[4]

^ Dorr, Lake & Thompson (1995), p. 96.
^ Dorr & Thompson (2003), p. 109.
^ Beaver, Paul (19 January 2018). "Sea Fury vs MiG-15 - the true story". News & Expertise. Royal Aeronautical Society. Archived from the original on 11 June 2019. Retrieved 13 November 2020. In the four minutes of air combat, it was a MiG 'kill' and two or three damaged, probably beyond repair. It became a cause célèbre in the Fleet Air Arm. Many Sea Fury pilots were disappointed for Schmoo Ellis, who kept his own counsel on the matter even when flight leader Carmichael was awarded the victory.
^ White, Rowland (2018). "Sea Fury - A New Perspective on a Famous Dogfight". Britain's Small Wars. Archived from the original on 6 February 2019. Retrieved 15 November 2020. The story is well known, its appeal obvious: the plucky Brit underdog bloodying the nose of an enemy who should have known better than to pick a fight. It goes something like this: On August 9, 1952, at the height of the Korean War, Commander Peter 'Hoagy' Carmichael led a flight of Hawker Sea Fury FB11s from 802 Naval Air Squadron on a patrol inland between Chinnampo and Pyongyang. They were jumped by eight MiG-15s and, so the story goes, Carmichael shot one down in the ensuing dogfight before all four Sea Furies returned safely to HMS Ocean and a 'pretty euphoric' welcome. The episode provided the Navy with a propaganda coup and Carmichael was sent home early to be feted and to prevent his exposure to any further danger. Sub-Lieutenant Brian 'Schmoo'Ellis was the youngest member of the flight. His memory of the action over North Korea and its aftermath suggests that this version of events may be at best foolishly over simplified and, at worst, plain wrong.

[1] Dorr, Lake & Thompson (1995), p. 96.

[2] Dorr & Thompson (2003), p. 109.

[RAS_2018-01-19-3] Beaver, Paul (19 January 2018). "Sea Fury vs MiG-15 - the true story". News & Expertise. Royal Aeronautical Society. Archived from the original on 11 June 2019. Retrieved 13 November 2020. In the four minutes of air combat, it was a MiG 'kill' and two or three damaged, probably beyond repair. It became a cause célèbre in the Fleet Air Arm. Many Sea Fury pilots were disappointed for Schmoo Ellis, who kept his own counsel on the matter even when flight leader Carmichael was awarded the victory.

[Rowland_White_1-4] White, Rowland (2018). "Sea Fury - A New Perspective on a Famous Dogfight". Britain's Small Wars. Archived from the original on 6 February 2019. Retrieved 15 November 2020. The story is well known, its appeal obvious: the plucky Brit underdog bloodying the nose of an enemy who should have known better than to pick a fight. It goes something like this: On August 9, 1952, at the height of the Korean War, Commander Peter 'Hoagy' Carmichael led a flight of Hawker Sea Fury FB11s from 802 Naval Air Squadron on a patrol inland between Chinnampo and Pyongyang. They were jumped by eight MiG-15s and, so the story goes, Carmichael shot one down in the ensuing dogfight before all four Sea Furies returned safely to HMS Ocean and a 'pretty euphoric' welcome. The episode provided the Navy with a propaganda coup and Carmichael was sent home early to be feted and to prevent his exposure to any further danger. Sub-Lieutenant Brian 'Schmoo'Ellis was the youngest member of the flight. His memory of the action over North Korea and its aftermath suggests that this version of events may be at best foolishly over simplified and, at worst, plain wrong.

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